## Equipment Issues

Simulation Lab Inventory of Supplies

Greetings, my name is Gloria Ohmart and I am the Director of Nursing Education in charge of developing an entirely new ADN program. One of my challeges is to decide which simulators to purchase. Having no experience with any particular simulator I would like to know of your experiences to help me decided. I plan on having HFS for adult, maternity, newborn, pediatrics. I know that Laerdal and Gaumard and Meti are manufacturers. Thanks for your advice.

Gloria Ohmart MN, RN

Gohmart@comcast.net

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We have both METI and Laerdal simulators. I prefer working with the Laerdal products, I think programming is much simpler. METI has a very nice PNCI- Program for Nursing Curriculum Integration that provides simulations for nursing that require very little programming, however. We do many simulations using female patients and it is a stretch to believe that the METI adult simulator is female. He is very large and muscular and looks like a very fit young man. He is difficult to make look like a frail, elderly person so I prefer Laerdal simulators for better realism. Service from Laerdal has been exceptional. I have no experience with Guamard simulators. Polly
Simulation Lab Inventory Software

Growing pains! Expansion of both our simulation and skills labs has made tracking of supplies/equipment is becoming unmanageable.
Anyone using tracking software? Recommendations?
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I would also be interested as we will be builidng a new lab with other disciplines using it and will need a way to keep track of supplies.
Cindy Becker
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HI Cindy (and friends).

KBPort has a scheduling an inventory managment system in process if that helps you.  We use their AV products exclusively and are very pleased with it!  They have quote a few new processes in development as well.

Contact  Tom Crawford (tcrawford@kbport.com in sales, or Chuck Miller (cmiller@kbport.com) the CEO.

Wendy

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Gloria:  We currently use both Laerdal's Sim Man and SimBaby for HFS at our BSN program.  Sim New B is a newborn baby which you can use for OB/Neonatal.  Laerdal also has Vita Sim which is not as complex but very useful.

Re: Gaumard.   I have seen the  Gaumard Pedi boy work and he is great since he is tetherless.

We do not use METI, but I have seen them demonstrated but cost prohibitive for our program.

Depending on what \$ amount you can spend, I would check out a program in your area that has a center and then you can visualize space and simulators.

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How exciting this challenge must be for you Gloria. I wish you well in your endeavor. I can only speak of my experience in our learning center. We are a small, private college with baccalaureate RN and graduate ANP and FNP programs but I think this will carry over to your ADN curriculum.

I am very happy with my Noelle from Gaumard for maternity. As a matter of fact I wish I had the funding right now to update her. I have used her for five years now and have had no problems.

For pediatrics, we are using the Vital sim baby and Vital sim kid from Laerdal. These are meeting our needs quite well at the moment for both the undergraduate and FNP program. We hope to update this with a Simbaby but we don't have the funds right now. We do not have a newborn so I can't speak to that.

For adult health simulators I have a SimMan from Laerdal that was upgraded a couple of years ago. I have had little problems with him and use him almost daily during the semester. We also love our Vital sim Nursing Annes. We now have two of them and find for the cost, they are a great value. We use them for our skills classes and our physical assessment classes as well as maternity for fundus checks. Our SimMan is used for simlation scenarios. I have added to the simulation experiences the use of virtual reality with microsim. This combination has made this form of learning very valuable for us.

I have not used the METI products so I can't speak of them although there are others who could let you know what they think.

At this point you need to consider three main factors. How simulation will fit into your curriculum, the space you have available, and of course your budget including faculty and staff for your lab. I think you will find the courses available on SIRC helpful in making the decisions that are right for your needs.

Andy

Andrea D. Ackermann PhD, RN, CCRN
Associate Professor of Nursing
Director of Simulation and Clinical Learning
Mount Saint Mary College
Newburgh, NY

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Gloria,

Congratulations on your new challenge! The simulators I have to work with at my college are Laerdal and Meti. The Laerdal are the mid-fidelity models and must say I haven't worked with them much. Most of my experience is with the Meti adult and pediatric simulators. I find the pre-programed scenarios easy to work with. If faculty wish to modify them, that is a simple adjustment. If students are not doing the correct interventions or not acting quick enough, it's easy to make adjustments. The one problem with the adult model is that it is so large and looks rather strange for female scenarios. It's more challenging to make it look like a frail patient. I did look at a Gaumard infant at a simulation fair and I was impressed. Based on what I saw between the Gaumard and Meti infant, I would have chosen the Gaumard.

Jodi Nelson, MSN, RN, CNE

BryanLGH College of Health Sciences; Lincoln, Nebraska

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Gloria,

I would encourage you to have each of the companies bring their simulators to you and demonstrate them to the faculty. Let the faculty get their hands on them and 'play' with them. If you don't have faculty buy-in from the beginning, you will struggle with getting your sim program going.

Kim

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Hi Gloria,

METI would be more than happy to send someone to your location to give you a demonstration of all of our products to help you with your decision. Please feel free to contact Dave Haroldson at 941-504-5508 or dharoldson@meti.com.

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HI Gloria! Congrats on your new endeavor!

I agree with Kim to have the companies come to your site and have faculty play and give you feedback.  I highly recommend Gaumard products, the other 2 companies I can discuss with you off line if you like.  For AV needs, I suggest looking at KB port if you have that need....awesome support and great products. The other question is what is your budget capabilities, and what meets your programmatic needs as well as the populations you are going to serve now and in the future.

Seek information as you go along to help you, alot of great minds on this and other sites!

Best, and drop a line if you want to talk!

Wendy

Curriculum Developer for Simulation Education