Developing Simulated Learning Experiences
We are "between" EMR systems and would like to create our own patchwork system to carry us through. I like your idea of using Adobe with word forms to do so. How time consuming was it? Is it fairly intuitive to do?
We're looking in to using the EHR program from McGraw Hill. The software is free with the adoption of the textbook. It uses Spring Charts. The students work through a variety of exercises to get them oriented to the program. It's very similar to some of the EHR they're seeing on the clinical floor. Additionally, it's completely customizable as we use several different scenarios and not just one publisher. So we (as faculty) can enter the patient in the system and the students can chart.
We haven't implemented it yet, although we're planning to next fall. We'd like to start our fundamentals students using the text to become familiar with it and then have the students chart after each check off and simulation activity.
Our students are allowed to access the EHR at one of our hospitals so they're missing a huge piece during their clinical rotations. We have them paper chart, but it's not the same experience and we're noticing a difference in our students.
Anyone doing anything with EHR that works for both the BSN and MSN?
Erin, Could you give me more information about this EHR through McGraw Hill? Is there an ISBN number?
I tried twice to get information from McGraw Hill on their EHR system but never got a reply. Do you buy a site license for this software? Do all of your faculty use their text books?
We are looking into Cerner and Neehr Perfect as well.
Can you share some information on this software you referenced Cerner and Neehr. Any information would be appreciated
Are you refering to this website:
Please tell us how this software helped you out. Please share some experience with it. Would you recommend to other schools. What did you some of its advantages and disadvantages.
CAn anybody tell me what they think about simchart. Was it worth the worthy to the students and why. Here's the link: http://www.elsevier.ca/ISBN/9781455710850/SimChart-6Month-Access-Code
Any input would be appreciated.
We had the same experience with nurse squared - it was a bust. The company gave us 2 years of Sim EMR, but no one at our facility has really done much with it. We have 3 secureRX mobile carts, and they are really nice, but they don't interface with any software. In other words, if a student were going to give meds in the Sim EMR system, they would have to click out of that, click into the Secure RX system on the computer, scan the wristband, and the med, then go back into the MAR on the Sim EMR system - where the scanning wouldn't show up. The systems don't communicate with each other. I have heard that Neehr Perfect is really good, but very expensive. I am interested in Pearson's My Neighborhood hooking up with Cerners for a complete nursing education package:
If anyone knows more about this, please clue the rest of us in. Email me if you have any information about this system:
We haven't started using it yet----however, I will start some use of it this school year. I'm highly interested in this area and look forward to hearing more about it!
Those of you who have added the EMR/EHR to your curriculum, if it is per student cost...did you add cost to tuition, place cost at textbook store, add cost to lab fees....took a hit?
Demo Dose® SecureRX Mobile Medication System?
That is an expensive item for a school to buy. Was it worth the purchase?
Item Number: 06-93-MD20
|Unit Price: $10,625.00|
It looks really good for us, although I'm working with my other faculty to get an official demo.
We are looking into using this system as well..will have demo in 2 weeks..hope it turns out to be what we expect..Thanks
How are you finding the Sim Chart? How is it different than the Sim EMR (if you know)? Does it come with patients/labs/orders, etc filled in already, or do you have to do all that? Have you used it for simulation or case studies (or for other student assignments)? Do you teach about it only in clinical, or do you use it for theory work also?
Thank you for any information you can share.
We are using SIMCHART - my feelings right now are fairly negative - we had cerner previously and I believe it was something like $19,000 per year - so this seemed more reasonable - students are paying about $80 for a 6 month code and $170 for an 18 month code - issues we have had: scenarios not working properly, quizzes being graded incorrectly, poor customer support, spending hours creating our own scenarios - we don't use theirs because they don't fit what we have and want to achieve. Internet has gone down during simulated med pass.
Why isn't there something reasonable priced that our students can use in the lab that works as an EHR? I am surprised at the prices for what we are getting.
If anyone has any ideas - I saw someone uses Adobe - I am interested - will have to see if that kind of low tech approach might work for us in between EHRs.
any other feedback on pearson?
does anyone know the pricing for the students for NEEHR perfect?
Way Worth it!
We are getting ready to purchase an EMR for our Simulation Center as well. We explored Cerner, Simchart, NeehrPerfect and DocuCare. We decided to go with DocuCare, it's pricing is very similar to Simchart, $50-$75 for 6 months depending on if it is bundled with a text or bought by the instituition. We are not up and running yet but I have talked to others who use this product and they are happy with it. I'm very pleased with the customer service I have received so far. They are a newer product so they don't have features such as barcode scanning for medications but they are working on it to add.
Have the faculty continued with the text the product is bundled with?
Not sure why the "?s" are there :)
I also meant to add. Our students have had very positive things to say about DocuCare. They tell us is makes the simulation more realistic. They use DocuCare to prepare for the simulation and to document on during the simulation. It is very user-friendly and I am looking forward to using it more. We are working on a Nursing Informatics elective and I am sure it will be used for that course as well.
DocuCare is easy to modify and the students have found it very intuitive as well.
Any information regarding pros, cons, implementations issues would be appreciated.
We are in the market for an EHR so we are also looking at NEEHR perfect. Can anyone tell me more about that?
Sim chart is a powerful learning tool and should be incorporated in pieces. It contains case studies, simulations, and the ability to create your own case studies and simulations. I did a summer research project with students prior to choosing a product. Students themselves chose Sim chart, even over Cerner. They liked that it was not only a documentation tool, but has alerts and references attached to it.
We have been using it for clinicals for 2 years now and will be incorporating it into simulations.
Hope this helps.
We are interested in the Sim Chart by Elsevier but want to know if you use a scanner with it? At our clinical affiliates most use scanners to scan the patient's band and medication. Do you use the scanner or know of anyone that does?
Thank you, Susan My email address is : firstname.lastname@example.org
I just want to thank all the Professors who have emailed me about their Sim Chart experience but wanted to share this link below on You Tube because I would like to find out who Professor Winters is because she uses the Sim Chart and made some training videos. I would like to know if she is using a scanner and what company she purchased them from.
Link: 2013: Professor Winters entering you Tube Training videos for her college…wish I knew where it was ( I will ask Darren)….
Just watched the video... it's excellent! Thanks for sharing this. In one of her videos, she mentioned her school (Farmingdale School of Nursing)...
If any of you would be so kind to email me any input you can offer!! Thanks so much! Michelle email@example.com