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Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Michelle Howard - Monday, September 27, 2010, 3:19 PM
 

I am the new Coordinator for our Allied Health Simulation lab. We are a Community College (14,000 students) with seven different programs. We are still in the planning stages and hope to build a five bed facility later this Fall or early Spring. We have already purchased our simulators. I am now starting to order generic (non-program specific) equipment and supplies and would like your expertise. Does anyone have an equipment and/or supply list (what you buy to stock- consumables, code carts, manufacturers for equipment, etc.)? Before I attempt to make one from scratch, I would see what is already out there!

 

You can email it to me at: howardp@otc.edu

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Michelle Howard RN, BSN

 

 
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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Karen Troppman - Monday, September 27, 2010, 4:34 PM
 
Hi Michelle, I am also from a community college and had responsibilities for ordering supplies for our new lab three years ago. I don't have all the vendors on one list to send you, but I can certainly send you a partial list. Perhaps you can let me know what items are prioroty at this point and I will start from there? Sincerely, Karen Troppman/ Simulation Lab Specialist, Delaware County Community College Media, Pennsylvania
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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Michelle Howard - Monday, September 27, 2010, 6:32 PM
 

Karen,

I am looking at ordering equipment such as functioning headwalls, a code cart, bedside tables, Alaris pumps, Kangaroo pumps, IV poles, etc. For supplies- I was looking for a quick and easy list that you would maybe check-off as you order. This would give me ideas on what I would need to stock a mock Med-Surg room and an ICU/ER room.

I would love anything you use to order. I think I can get the suppliers from who we already order from as a college.

Thanks for your quick response and help!

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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Fred Klausegger - Friday, November 5, 2010, 3:03 PM
 
We purchased most of our big ticket items from Pocket Nurse. Some of the equipment like syringe pumps and IV pumps were purchased refurbished from online vendors that deal in used medical equipment. The small day to day stuff (tissues, hand sanitizer, gauze) is usually bought thru Pocket Nurse. I will send you an email with our inventory list for these types of supplies.
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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Cheryl Landis - Saturday, November 6, 2010, 1:42 PM
 
Fred, can you give me an idea for the creation of unit dose meds? I too have purchased most of my supplies from Pocket Nurse including practically all of the meds that they offer. However, I am unsure how I can create other meds not offered by Pocket Nurse. Thanks so much!
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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Wendy Grbach - Saturday, November 6, 2010, 3:18 PM
 

HI Cheryl,

We use candy that our pharmacy has graciously sealpacked indivudally for us...(tic tacs and skittles. Necco Wafers for tums rather than the real antacid preps.), in addition to Pocketnurse and Wallcur supplies.  Not sure if you have access to an automated system but it doesnt hurt to ask!  We have formulated med labels for these, and used generic bar code as well. to replicate full experience...my next search is for a bar-code scanner system to augment our lab and McKesson station.

We just ran our students thru multi patient sim and med admin, so the actual ability for the student to perform the full point of care action as if they were on a clinical unit was very positive in their reflections.  No SP's get harmed, and they get "treats" for occupying a bed  and volunteering for the time.

Have Fun!

Wendy

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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Nate Brent - Saturday, November 6, 2010, 10:18 PM
 

Hello

Take a look at the program Milt 3.0.  It makes professional looking medication labels for blister packs.  Pocket nurse sells it along with the labs sheet and the blister sheets.  This program allows you to make any medication you want, and supports bar codes as well.

On a different note, I do not see why there are programs that are not using the real thing rather than candy for their meds.  The whole point of simulation is to suspend disbelief, to make a situation as real as possible.  Using candy in place of real "pills" does not allow for this.  Is it a safety issue?  Only if your SP's or students decide to eat the meds, which is a bit preposterous.  This is just my $0.02.

Nate

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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Wendy Grbach - Saturday, November 6, 2010, 11:16 PM
 

Nate I wholeheartedly agree with you re the meds comment of realism need to support learning, and we do as much as possible utilize "real" meds.  For small programs (my lab is 2 patient rooms , and is seeing 400+ students in the program annually, the issue is cost and without a continuously running cash flow stream, we do what we can. 

Best,

Wendy

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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Cheryl Landis - Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 1:11 PM
 
Nate, from where do you purchase "real" meds? I will take a look at Pocket Nurse too. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Nate Brent - Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 2:24 PM
 

Usually we have staff "donate" old expired meds that they have, or we will buy a bottle of ibuprofen from costco.  The big ticket item is the labeling program.  It is called Milt 3.0.  Pocket nurse sells it under "Demo Dose Labeling software".  Here is the link: http://www.pocketnurse.com/Demo-Dose-Labeling-Software-for-Custom-Labels/productinfo/10-79-DD30/

We have made several medications for our formulary, and it is really convincing (after we purchased it, I found out that our pharmacy uses the same program for packaging meds for our patients.

I hope this helps.

I also want to say that I have no commercial interest in this particular product.  I am a user of the product.

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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Diane Baker - Friday, March 23, 2012, 9:35 AM
 
I have received donations of real meds for use in our nursing/simulation lab also.  My concern is any liabilty associated with using the real thing. Are there any regualtions associated with the use of the real med that you or anyone else is aware of?
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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by patricia mccauley - Sunday, November 7, 2010, 4:21 PM
 

Hi Wendy,

What does your McKesson station consist of and did you get it directly from McKesson ?

Thanks,

Pat

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Re: Simulation Equipment and Supplies
by Wendy Grbach - Saturday, January 12, 2013, 7:59 AM
 
Wow Pat I am so sorry it took me this long to see your post!  Yes the medstation was a donation from McKesson.  I had a personal contact and was seeking outdated or refurbed models, and was blessed to get a system that is used in our hospital system.